Lifetime Generosity
Transcript
Good morning. My name is Spencer. I'm a pastor in training here with Mill City Church. We're going to be in 2 Corinthians 9 today, which is on page 563, if you have a white Bible. If you do not have a Bible, please take that home. That is our gift to you.
We are currently in our gift series. If you're new here, we do this gift series every year. It's a time for us in a culture that pushes possessions and material things all year, and it really heightens up right now. This is a time for us every year to reset and be reminded with the Bibles how it talks about money, how it talks about generosity, so that we can kind of reset and remember what the Bible teaches on it. So we're going to be in 2 Corinthians.
We'll get to that in a second. In seminary, I worked at a coffee shop. And this time every year in December was the best time to work at a coffee shop. It was my favorite time for a lot of different reasons. Firstly, this was the time of year that people, this is the season of generosity, that people would do one of those things where we had a coffee shop with a drive-thru, and the person at the drive-thru would say, I want to pay for the person behind me. And they'd start a chain.
You ever seen those or heard of those? So the person would pay for the person behind them, and then the next person would get really, really excited, and they'd say, oh, I've always wanted to be a part of one of these. I'll pay for the next person, the next person. The reason why I love this was because eventually someone was going to come up, and it was going to get awkward. And I just love to let awkward situations just simmer, let it go for a little bit. So someone's going to come up, and they're going to get a small coffee, which is like $2.
And then they're going to pay for the person behind them, and the next person, they're going to have the small coffee, and they're going to go, okay, well, that person paid for me. That's really cool. Like what? What did the next person get? I was like, well, they bought coffee for the office. Five drinks, all large, with espresso shots, $25.
And they would go, okay, and I just let it sit for a second. And eventually they'd either say like, I guess I'll do it, like reluctantly, or they'd just say, I can't do it. That was fun. That was a big part of December. Another big part of December, because this season, just a generous season, was you made more tips. This was the time of the year you could make the most tips.
So people would be dropping extra change in, extra dollars. I mean, this is the time of year that you would make the most money. And then January came. And when January came, it was like the holiday hangover. Everyone's 10 pounds heavier. They just got their credit card bills from December.
And they're like, how did this just happen? And then generosity culturally just goes to die in January. And that's kind of the cycle every year. It picks back up right around December. Remember, nonprofits that raise money for the next calendar year, they know this is the time of year where you're going to get the most donations. This is the time where you fundraise.
Like Giving Tuesday wasn't even a thing five years ago. And now, like the first Tuesday in December, there's a huge push because this is the time when people are culturally generous. So what I have for us today is to look at the season that we're in. To look at the season we're in and ask, do we want to be like the culture where generosity is just seasonal? Or do we want generosity to be a part of the regular fabric of who we are? Because the Bible calls us to regular generosity.
So as we take on this gift project, as we take on this gift series, I want to cast a vision for us that we might grow past this season. Because regular generosity is a Mark of maturity in the Christian life. And we're going to look at 2 Corinthians 9 today in verses 6 through 10. And we're going to see the vision he puts forth for this. We're going to see why it's good and give some practicals how we can actually get there. So I'll read it.
And then we'll dive in. Verse 6. I'll pray and we'll dive in. God, thank you for your word. Thank you that you speak tough truth to us. Money is such a difficult subject to grapple with because it's so connected to our heart.
God, I pray that you would help us put down our swords, that we would receive this, that you would speak powerfully to us and give us a vision for long-term generosity. We ask this in Jesus' name. Amen. All right, so. All right, so.
The context for 2 Corinthians here. All right, so. The context, if we go back to chapter 8. Paul is doing basically two chapters of expanding the Corinthian church's vision for generosity. And what he does in chapter 8, the beginning of chapter 8, is he gives an example. He gives an example of another church that's called the Church of Macedonia.
So this Macedonian church heard there was a need. There was a need amongst some of the churches in Jerusalem who were struggling. And the Macedonian church, he upholds this church as an example. This church being, we know from the context, being fairly poor. They didn't have a whole lot. And they responded in generosity in a big way.
He says in verse 3 of chapter 8, he says, for they gave according to their means, as I can testify, and beyond their means of their own accord, begging us earnestly for the favor of taking part in the relief of the saints. So this church didn't have a whole lot. They were begging to take part that they might be able to contribute to help this church. So he walks through that in chapter 8. He gives this example. And then we get to verse 6 in chapter 9 when he says, the point is this.
Meaning he's laying out the why behind all this. The point is this. Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly. And whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. So he uses this language of reaping and sowing.
It's agricultural language that they would be familiar with. So in their culture, every year when they would harvest grain, they would bring in grain that they would use for bread. And if they ate all the grain at once for that year, they'd starve the next year. That's not how you farm. You have to set aside grain for the future, for future harvest. If you didn't have grain to plant for seeds for next year, you were not going to have grain for future harvest.
This language is built off of that. They might give to something in the future that will reap something, that will sow, that you'll reap something later. Now, prosperity preachers, they will hijack this passage. And they'll say, you see, if you give to our ministry, if you give to what we're doing, God's going to bless you. You're going to have material blessings right now. Your business will grow and you'll get cars.
Look at our ministry. We've got Learjets. It's awesome. And prosperity preachers, typically you'll see on TV, rule of thumb, nine times out of ten, if they're preaching on TV, they're probably a prosperity preacher. And they're going to stand up there and they're going to use this about the material now. If you give now, you'll reap material benefits now.
And they've completely ripped this from its context. This is not about the material now. This is about the eternal later. Now, there's an element for right now when we get to verse 10 where God provides for your needs right now. But it isn't the fleshly desires that you hear from some of those guys.
No, this is about the eternal later. It's building off the same idea that we've been building off the past few weeks. It's not about storing up treasures here. It's about storing up treasures in heaven. That's why I love what Chad did last week. If you weren't here, I encourage you to listen to the podcast.
But the visual, you won't be able to see. He took this long spool of thread. And he took this long spool of thread. At the very end, he taped one small piece of it. And he held it up and he said, this is your life. You're born here.
You die here. The rest of this string, and he kept unraveling and unraveling it, helping us see. The rest of this string is eternity. And it's not even to scale. Because eternity goes on and on and on. And what he helped us see was that we think about money in the context of this right here.
We don't think about it in the context of what the Bible calls us to. We have an eternal outlook on the way we spend money and the way that we think about money. That was a helpful visual for us. And that's what they are trying to communicate in this passage as well. Because culturally, we just don't do this well. We don't think forward enough.
I mean, the best kind of picture of how culture thinks forward and investing in something down the road is retirement. That's pretty much it. And retirement's a good thing. I mean, the Bible, the Proverbs teach about storing up for later, about leaving stuff for your kids. Somewhat downplaying retirement. You should be investing in retirement for later.
But, man, the way the retirement gets pitched in our culture is sad. I mean, the retirement commercials that you see, it's usually like a couple and they're on a boat. And maybe that boat, like the name of the boat is their retirement fund. And it's always on the Gulf because it's blue waters. They don't ever do it in the Atlantic where it's a little bit muddy. It's always blue waters.
And you work your whole life and invest in this retirement fund so you can get the boat, buy the ocean, and it's going to be great. And it's a sad picture for layers of reasons. Practically, how many hurricanes hit the Gulf on a regular basis? That boat isn't going to exist past a few years. Your beach home is going to get jacked up. And to think that we would invest so much and put so many eggs in that basket that for like 10 years we could actually enjoy that.
And then, I mean, you'll enjoy it for a moment and then it's gone. To think that we would put so much hope in the last few years of our life instead of thinking about the eternity that is to come is sad. And that's the best example we have of our culture investing in something down the road. So Paul is trying to expand the Corinthians, their understanding of this, that storing up treasures here is foolish. They're here for a moment and then they're gone. So he teaches on this and he's teaching on the heels of using this example of this Macedonian church, how they responded greatly in generosity.
And I think that's helpful. I think having examples of how other people, other churches have responded radically and generously, that's helpful. I don't remember a whole lot of sermons from when I was a kid. I didn't become a Christian until I was 17. But I do remember one sermon specifically.
And it was about, he used this example of this guy who had built this construction business. And he built this very successful multi-million dollar construction business. And he lived on 10% of what he made. And he gave 90% of the church, 90% to see the mission go forward. And I was like, man, that has always stuck with me, that kind of radical generosity. It's helpful when you hear about villages in Africa where churches don't have hardly anything and they come together and they pull the resources to be able to help somebody.
It's helpful to see stories like when Jesus told the parable of the woman, the widow, who gave everything she had. It was just two pennies, but she gave everything she had. Those stories are helpful because they give us a picture of what radical generosity looks like. But sometimes, if we're honest, sometimes they can be a little bit discouraging. Because hear this, if you're giving like 40 bucks a month and you hear stories like that, you're like, man, I am never going to get there. I can help out with your gift project.
I can pitch in a little bit there. But, man, I've got diapers I've got to pay for. And my kid's 529 educational account has like 80 bucks in it. And some of you are like, I don't even know what a 529 educational account is. Like, I've got needs that I'm trying to take care of right now. So I'll help a little bit.
But, man, I don't think I can do much more. Or maybe you've been in a state where you've been able to give for a season. And then all of a sudden some bills came. And it just, you got scared. And it was like, I don't know if I can keep this going. The credit card bills are coming in.
I don't know if I can do this. So if that is where you're at, if that's the zone that you're in, what Paul says next in verse 7 is of great value to us. Because he's going to expand our understanding of giving in a big way. In verse 7 he says, All right, so where he wants to move us to is regular sacrificial generosity that is cheerful. So if you're in the zone where it's like, I'm currently not giving at all.
Or maybe you're in the zone that I'm giving a little bit. It's not sacrificial. You may even be the person that's actually giving somewhat sacrificial. Maybe you heard about tithing growing up and you've always given 10%. That's been your mindset. But you don't do it cheerfully.
You do it because it's what you've always done. Or you do it reluctantly. Or maybe in your mindset it's like, this is how I peace God in some way. That I just give 10%. That's what I'm supposed to do. And Paul's trying to move us to know.
Sacrificial giving that is cheerful. If you do a word study and the word cheerful, it comes back cheerful. Joyful. That you might be excited about how you can give. Now in order to get there.
Which I don't know the word. In order to get there. We have to look at what he says here. When he says decision of the heart. Because that is huge for us. He says it's a decision of the heart.
That phrase right there is helpful. Because it reminds us. That this is a heart process. That giving is a part of our heart process. It's a part of our maturity. It's a part of what the Bible says is our sanctification.
Which is growing in holiness. Which is growing into Christ. It's a part of the process of maturity. And hear this. Maturity doesn't happen in a moment. It doesn't.
It takes time. My daughter. She's two and a half. And she's learning how to use sentences. So she's.
She'll come to me. Have you ever seen my daughter? She's really stinking cute. She's got blonde curls. And she comes up to me. And she'll go.
Daddy. Hold you. And I'm like. Oh. That's so sweet. Pick her up and say.
You mean. Daddy. Will you hold me? Daddy. Daddy. Hold you.
I was like. All right. We're working on that. Sometimes. Sometimes. She'll.
She'll get to talking. And she'll say. Daddy. Can you please. And she hears us talk. And we talk fast.
And she'll just all of a sudden go. Daddy. Can you please. Oh. And she starts speaking in gibberish. And I'm like.
Child. Are you speaking in tongues? What's going on here? Slow down. Like. You need to just.
Use. Like. Slow down. Work. And we work on that. Now.
Here's the deal. What kind of dad would I be. If my cute little daughter comes up to me. And says. Daddy. Hold you.
I say. Child. Please. No. You use correct English. We'll get somewhere.
Until then. Talk to your mom. Like. What. What kind of dad would I be. If I wasn't patient with her.
Knowing that. She's got a long way to go. She's got a long way to mature. And in the same way. We have a God who is gracious. A gracious heavenly father.
Who is waiting for us to mature. Waiting for us to grow. I mean. That's true for any part of your process of growing into Christ. Right? Like.
When you first learn. That. As a Christian. You're actually supposed to. To be reconciled in relationships. That you get angry with another Christian.
Like. You're not supposed to just be passively aggressive. And just. Let anger just brood inside. And never talk to them. No.
Like. You're actually supposed to address them. The first time you actually go. And try biblical reconciliation. Like. You may go for it.
And you may. Man. I just. I'm so angry with you. And it may come out complete. Gibberish.
But God's patient with us. Until we speak the gospel fluently. He's patient with us. Until we grow. In maturity. And we have to have that mindset.
And apply it. To our generosity. You have a ways to go. I have a ways to go. But we have a father who is generous with us.
Who is patient. With us. And who's given us the Holy Spirit. To work in us. I love the picture that Ezekiel 36. 20, 60, 27 gives.
It's looking into the New Testament. How the Spirit is going to work in the church. He says. And I will give you a new heart. And a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh.
And give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you. And hear this. And cause you to walk in my statutes. And be careful to obey my rules. The picture is that he's traded out a heart of stone.
And he's put in a heart of flesh. And he's put the spirit inside of us. Who is going to cause us to walk in his statutes. Who is going to cause us to walk in his ways. We're not alone. The spirit is working through us.
And we have to have a long term picture of what that looks like. So that we can extend our generosity past this current season. So if you're currently not living generously. If you're currently not giving to the church. If you're currently not living generously towards the needs of people in your community group. Like hear this encouragement.
You can get there. You can get there. The Holy Spirit is in you. Working in you. He can grow you in this. But it's going to take some time.
And it's going to take some intentionality. And that's true for anything. It takes time. It takes intentionality. This is the time of year we're getting ready to have New Year's. And with New Year's comes New Year's resolutions.
Which means the gyms are about to be packed. They are. Jeremy Powell is a personal trainer here. My father is a personal trainer. They call this season tourist season. Because this is the time when everyone shows up to the gym.
And they're like, I'm going to get fit. This is going to be my year. And I personally, I hate working out. Like I hate it. Like I despise working out. Like if you want to play basketball.
And I do like being active like that. But man, going to a gym working out is just not my thing. I hate it. There have been seasons where I was like, man, I think I could be a gym person. And I would go. And the only time I've ever worked out consistently was when I was in high school training when I was playing baseball and football.
And I'd go in the gym. And I'd pick up right where I left off and do hour workouts and work out early. And then two weeks in, I'd be like, what am I doing? Like I'm trying to pick up where I left off. I'm trying to be the most advanced version of what I was doing. Like what am I doing?
You just don't jump into the gym and start killing it. The same thing happens with diets. Like you don't go from McDonald's to Whole30. You just don't. Like I've tried. My wife does Whole30 about once a year.
It's coming up again. And the first time she ever did Whole30, I was like, baby, I'm going to come alongside you. I'm going to help you do this. And I did Whole30. Because it's the worst diet ever. You can eat like air, water, and squash spaghetti.
And squash spaghetti is terrible. It's an abomination of foods. Like it's awful. Like it's not spaghetti. If you just want to call it squash and eat it and realize you're eating something that's objectively terrible, go for it. But don't make spaghetti out of it and say, oh, this is great.
No. It's terrible. And I made it three days because I'm like, this is the worst diet ever. Because you don't go from McDonald's, which I enjoy sometimes. You have a McDonald's app. You can get $354 deals.
You probably judge me, but that's okay. You don't jump from McDonald's to Whole30. It takes time. If you actually want to have a diet and sustainable and go long term, you cut out some things. You introduce some vegetables. You introduce some whole grains.
Right? So in the same way, this give project. This give project is a small start for us. Right? Like it's a way for us to go check out the gym. It's a way for us to introduce some whole grains to start getting a little more healthy.
But we don't go from zero to 100 just like that. You just don't. That's not a sustainable outlook on giving. That's why I don't really like the language of tithe when it comes to giving. I just don't for a couple of reasons. Like tithe is an Old Testament concept.
It's an Old Testament concept of you would give a tenth of what they made to the temple. And then they've, you know, scholars have done the research and they've seen that it's a tithe on what they would make, a tithe on certain harvests, a tithe on certain festivals. And it ends up being somewhere between 20 and 30 percent. But they don't really know. There's not a New Testament command to go and tithe. The New Testament command is to give and give sacrificially.
And some of the reasons I don't like tithe is that for some of you, you're not feeling 10 percent. That's not sacrificial. You can just put auto-give 10 percent of your income and you'll never feel it. And it robs you of actually being able to grow into sacrificial giving. But the other reason I don't like the language of tithe is that if you're not giving at all, or if you're giving a few bucks a month, and your understanding of giving is I have to give 10 percent, you're like, I'm out.
I'm never actually going to get there. Like, what's the point? If giving is 10 percent, I'm never actually going to get there. So a more realistic outlook, a more realistic approach is to look at 2018 and think, you know what? I think if we move some things around, I think we can do 2 percent this year. We can do 2 percent this year.
And then having a long-term outlook that says maybe in 2019, we can give 4 percent. And maybe in 2020, we can give 6 percent. And having a long-term vision of slowly growing in this so that you can actually get to sacrificial giving. And as you do this, and as you think through this, we do it prayerfully. We don't do it reluctantly. We don't do it under compulsion.
We do it prayerfully. And we ask God to go to work in our hearts. We might do this cheerfully. And once you've prayed, and once you feel like God is calling you to give something, like this is a time to look at our budgets going into 2018. If you don't have a budget, you should. You should have a budget.
If you are currently struggling to live within your means, you should have a budget. And here's the deal. At our church, we have a toast team. They are our financially wise people in our church. They're here to help serve us. And they want to meet with you.
If you don't know how to make a budget, if you will help with your budget, if you're looking to get out of debt, we have a team that will sit down with you. And they will help draw up a plan. They will help you figure out how to grow in this. And this will actually help free you up to be able to start giving. And when you look at your budget, I just want to give you a few quick ways. If you look at these right now, you'd find some ways to grow and be able to give.
If you have cable, and you're like paying hundreds of dollars, if you switch to like Sling TV, which is like 40 channels, it's 20 bucks a month. If some of you can be looking at cheaper phone plans, some of us can start shopping for insurance rates. Because what I've noticed the last few years, there's like zero incentive to actually stay with an insurance company. They will just jack up the rates on you. For some of you, it's going to be looking at how many times a week you eat out. Because if you're eating out seven times a week and getting drinks five times a week, maybe it's time to pare that down a little bit.
For some of you, it's not jumping on every single Lula Rowe outfit that comes out, but thinking about Target. And for some of us who are due a pay raise coming up, so much of this is realizing that we either worship God or we worship money, like what Chet talked about last week. When it comes to getting a pay raise, it's having our mindset adjusted. When we get that pay raise, it's not how much more can I get? It's like, God, what do you want to do with this? What do you want me to give?
How do you want me to grow here? We had someone during this series who came up and said, I have a brand new car and I want to start living within my means. And I want to figure out how to sell this car and see if I can get a used car to have smaller payments. That's the kind of response that I love seeing. And the way we do this is we look at our budgets and we do some praying and we start considering things. And we also, maybe for some of us, is bringing people into this.
Because, man, I am naturally prone to worship money. And if I have my budget in front of me, I will try to justify it to myself in any way possible. But when I bring in somebody else and they're looking at it, it helps me think through what am I actually doing with my finances. All of us, this is a heart-level process. And, man, it's a heart-level process that we go to war in. It just is.
Because when you start to do this, temptation is coming. From your flesh, from the world, from the devil. Like, it is going to come. And you're going to feel the pull to want to focus on the possessions of this world as we strive to have a long-term vision of generosity. So, at this point, at this point, you may be frustrated. Like, you may be ready to, like, bow up or walk out.
Right? Because, I mean, talking about money, it causes us to sit in our seat a little bit. And you may even be a little bit discouraged. I feel like that Paul felt the same thing. And that's why in verse 8 he gives a pretty solid encouragement in verse 8. He says in verse 8, And God is able to make all grace abound to you.
What Paul gives here is that God is the sufficiency for our change. God is the one who's sufficient. He's the one that makes all grace abound. He's the one that is going to grow us. He's the one that is going to help us change. Because here's the deal.
If you try to muscle change yourself here, like, you're going to fail. Because we're not the ones that are sufficient to change our views on giving, to grow us in this. That Jesus is our sufficiency for change. He's the one that will change us. He's the one that will form us. And that comes, firstly, through believing the gospel.
Which is why I love what Paul says in verse 9. He says, As it is written, He has distributed freely. He has given to the poor. His righteousness endures forever. Paul quotes Psalm 112 here. And I love what he's doing here.
Because when we connect this to the gospel, we see that Jesus embodied this perfectly. That he's the one who perfectly distributed freely and helped the poor. And that he distributed grace to those of us who are spiritually poor and spiritually bankrupt. That we might have a righteousness that endures forever. The God who generously poured out his son for us is the one who enables us. He is the sufficiency for our change.
And then he goes on to show us how we can continue to trust him in this. He says in verse 10, He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase your harvest. Increase the harvest of your righteousness. So Paul gives a picture of God as the one who provides here. Like God's the provider. He's the one who supplies.
I think oftentimes the reason that we get discouraged when we do this, when we try to step into this and live generously, is we just get scared. Like how am I going to do this? I'm looking at my bills. I'm looking at my income. How in the world am I going to actually begin to do this? Here's the deal.
I've never met anyone who began to trust Jesus with their finances. I've never met anyone who started to do this, and all of a sudden everything fell apart and God didn't provide. Like usually the story that you hear is, I don't know how all this worked out. I don't. Like I don't know how the math worked out, but God continued to provide. And as I increased my giving, God met me where I was at and he provided for my needs.
And as that process goes, you start to trust God. You start to realize how awesome this is to take part. And you start to grow cheerfully to the point where you're like waiting for someone in the church to have a medical bill or to lose a job because you're ready to come alongside and see, how can I come alongside this and give? God provides. We trust him with our finances. He provides.
And when we trust and have an eternal outlook on our finances in the way that we give, and when we do that and we give to the mission of God, what that means is it frees us up to be able to do more ministry. When we give to the church, it allows, like we have two full-time pastors. We have Matt and Chet that are full-time. It allows them to not have to go and get jobs. They can be able to strategically focus here. It allows us to be able to meet here on a Sunday.
I know you're thinking, this place ain't amazing, but if you actually took a step back and realized how many stories have changed happened in this building, it puts it in perspective. It puts it in perspective when you have eternal mindset that there are neighbors and coworkers and friends and family members who can come and hear the gospel here. That's eternal. It puts it in perspective when you think about our kids that are up in Kid City right now and someone is walking them through the gospel that one day we might stand in a baptism pool. And they might say, Jesus is Lord. That's an eternal outlook on the way that we give.
That's the eternal nature of what we're giving to. Because here's the deal. A thousand years from now, a thousand years from now, you're not going to care about that top-of-the-line remodel that you missed out on. You're not going to care about that you didn't have the newest and the nicest cars. You're not going to care about that you didn't have the newest and the nicest gadgets. What you will care about is who is standing with you in the presence of God for eternity.
You will care about your family, your friends, your coworkers and kids who through being here in community groups on a Sunday heard the gospel and were changed. That's the vision of long-term generosity that we have to have. Because we want to see long-term change happen in this city. Matt and Bianca are going to come up. We're going to close this in a song, a couple songs. A easy step to move into generosity right now is owning this gift project.
We've been doing this gift project, and there's been kind of two main goals here. The first, if you haven't heard what we've been doing yet, we're partnering with Midtown Two Notch. It's a church over on Two Notch on the other side of Columbia, and it's in an area of town that is way under-resourced. The average household income is like $18,000, and like the normal household income for the state is around $50,000. So they don't have a lot.
And there's a lot of families there that aren't going to be able to celebrate Christmas by getting their kids gifts. So one of the things that we're doing is we've been collecting gifts like this because this Saturday we're going to do a toy shop. So throughout the week we're still collecting gifts. This Thursday is the cutoff day. Please bring gifts by the office for kids ages 3 to 18. We're expecting 100 to 150 kids, so we need more gifts.
So if you're at Target this week or you're at Walmart, please pick up some more gifts and bring them by the office on Thursday. If you'd like to serve this Saturday for the toy shop that we're running at their church, you can sign up online. Please do this as soon as possible so we can have some Numbers of what we're going to do. And this Saturday we're going to show up, and we're going to play the background. We're going to serve, and we're going to let Midtown Two Notch be the face of who is helping do this. And there's going to be a toy shop for parents to go inside and be able to pick out toys for their kids.
And we're going to be outside doing games with kids like bouncy houses and hot chocolate and fire pits and crafts. And then the next Sunday, these families are going to be able to show up at Midtown Two Notch's gathering. And they're going to collect these gifts for their kids, and they're going to connect that to this as a church who is in our area, who is serving us in a big way. And God willing, we hope to see some people that will meet Jesus because of this. So if you want to serve in that, please sign up for that as soon as possible.
The last way we're serving that church, their lead pastor, Aunt Frederick, is support raised because he's in that area and it's underfunded. Like he may never be fully supported by the church, so he fundraises every year to get by, and we just want to bless him. We're collecting money right now to be able to help ease the burden of his 2018 salary.